15:02:37 <dmcbride> #startmeeting OPNFV release 15:02:37 <collabot`> Meeting started Tue Apr 11 15:02:37 2017 UTC. The chair is dmcbride. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:37 <collabot`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:02:37 <collabot`> The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_release' 15:02:45 <dmcbride> #topic roll call 15:02:49 <dmcbride> #info David McBride 15:06:39 <dmcbride> #chair tallgren 15:06:39 <collabot`> Current chairs: dmcbride tallgren 15:06:54 <jose_lausuch> #info Jose Lausuch 15:06:58 <Greg_E_> #info Greg Elkinbard 15:07:05 <tallgren> #info Tapio Tallgren 15:07:07 <StuartMackie> #info Stuart Mackie 15:07:43 <rpaik> #info Ray Paik 15:07:55 <dmcbride> #chair rpaik 15:07:55 <collabot`> Current chairs: dmcbride rpaik tallgren 15:08:26 <rpaik> doesn't look like everyone has the correct GTM link 15:08:33 <sofiawallin> #info Sofia Wallin 15:09:05 <Greg_E_> https://www.gotomeeting.com/join/775124285 15:09:45 <rpaik> I also posted on #opnfv-meeting 15:10:51 <tallgren> #topic Milestone 1 - release planning 15:11:28 <dmcbride> #info still lacking a release template 15:11:36 <rpaik> #info dmcbride notes that release plan template maybe something that is needed 15:11:48 <dmcbride> #info HKirksey asks whether we need a release template 15:12:22 <dmcbride> #info perhaps a template is useful for new projects, but less necessary for more experienced projects 15:14:14 <tallgren> #info dneary asks whether joining the release is a worthwhile goals for many projects 15:16:10 <rpaik> #info frankbrockners notes that template would be helpful for those that are new to the community and would be good to factor in project types (e.g. testing, development, etc.) 15:17:45 <trevor_intel_> #info Trevor Cooper 15:18:43 <rpaik> #info jmorgan1 notes that it would be helpful to have Jira tickets associates with items in the release plan 15:19:34 <dmcbride> #info bryan_att cautions against putting too much effort into creating a template 15:22:07 <tallgren> #info The resource needs of project should be known earlier in the cycle 15:22:47 <tallgren> #fdegir points out that the release needs must be followed during the release cycle 15:22:54 <tallgren> #undo 15:22:54 <collabot`> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2251890> 15:23:01 <tallgren> #info fdegir points out that the release needs must be followed during the release cycle 15:23:53 <dmcbride> #info fdegir points out the need to refresh CI resource req throughout the release cycle 15:24:39 <tallgren> #topic Milestone 2 - Communicate test requirements 15:26:16 <rpaik> #info dmcbride notes that he plans to simplify questions for MS2 (test case requirements) 15:34:10 <tallgren> #info There were problems in testing Kubernetes but jose_lausuch points out that the test frameworks are being extended to include it 15:34:25 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan 15:36:57 <bryan_att> #info re the last point we should add or strengthen project plan checks in which the project clarifies how their scope is covered by feature tests (e.g. Tempest or other), and if that coverage is incomplete (we're not bored yet) they include plans to make progress toward better coverage in the release. 15:40:10 <bryan_att> #info we should get the installer projects to give a little more detail as to what the issue was with Danube/Newton late readiness, so we can know whether the issue is likely to continue and what if anything we can do to improve the situation and de-risk future readiness for feature project development/testing. 15:41:06 <bryan_att> #info e.g. the issue may be resources, upstream dependency/cadence issues, issues not expected to repeat (e.g. major lab move), ... 15:41:13 <rpaik> #info radez asks if MS3 & MS4 could be collapsed 15:41:41 <tallgren> #info Discussion about whether installer milestone should be earlier than the test framework milestone 15:42:45 <dmcbride> #info bryan_att asks whether installer projects could do a retrospective on openstack integration experience in Danube 15:43:01 <bryan_att> #info in general the approach we (AT&T) recommend and will pursue is to focus development effort on trunk for the current upstream release at all times, so we are not impeded; and to focus development effort on generic upstream environments that are not impacted by the installer integration schedule. 15:44:18 <bryan_att> #info as we are also proposing a new installer project (Armada), we will be a test subject for that (somewhat) ambitious (but ultimately crucial IMO) goal. 15:44:46 <rpaik> #action dmcbride to schedule a session on installer integration during the Plugfest in a few weeks 15:45:58 <tallgren> #topic Milestone 4 - Infrastructure Updates Completed 15:48:43 <tallgren> #info dmbride proposes including "Test framework ready" to milestone 4 15:50:08 <rpaik> #info MS4 is when installers need to pass smoke test with nosdn scenarios 15:50:44 <tallgren> #topic Milestone 5 - Scenario integration and Feature Freeze 15:53:53 <tallgren> #topic Milestone 6 - Test Case Implementation 15:59:03 <tallgren> #info Discussion between bryan_att and dmcbride about hiring an intern to automate the Milestone 6 compliance check 16:00:00 <rpaik> #info discussion on utilizing test dashboard information for MS6 compliance verification 16:00:52 <bryan_att> #info the verification that something is happening (e.g. feature project integration and successful test executions) is mine-able, so PTLs should not have to provide this information directly. 16:02:27 <dmcbride> #info we ran out of time at slide 10. We will resume the retrospective at next week's release meeting. 16:02:33 <dmcbride> #endmeeting