14:04:23 <dmcbride> #startmeeting OPNFV release
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14:04:29 <dmcbride> #topic roll call
14:04:38 <dmcbride> #info David McBride
14:04:40 <timirnich> #info Tim Irnich
14:04:45 <yifei> #info Yifei Xue
14:04:46 <Julien-zte> #info Julien
14:04:51 <bramwelt> #info Trevor Bramwell
14:05:28 <sofiawallin> #info Sofia Wallin
14:05:31 <fdegir> #info Fatih Degirmenci
14:05:54 <LindaWang> #info Linda Wang
14:06:46 <trozet> #info Tim Rozet
14:07:15 <timirnich> thanks for the flowers ;-)
14:07:41 <mbuil> #info Manuel Buil
14:10:58 <dmcbride> #topic xci and release process
14:13:20 <dmcbride> #info need to make a distinction between xci and CD
14:16:09 <fdegir> https://wiki.opnfv.org/download/attachments/8687635/XCI_Update_February2018.pdf?api=v2
14:16:26 <dmcbride> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/download/attachments/8687635/XCI_Update_February2018.pdf?api=v2
14:17:07 <fdegir> slide 4
14:17:13 <fdegir> ci evolution
14:23:37 <fdegir> slide 9 talks about how projects can populate release candidates
14:23:51 <fdegir> and how those candidates can be used for doing releases in cadence
14:27:05 <dmcbride> #info project only receives OPNFV tag if it passes gates
14:27:44 <dmcbride> #info xci would support 6-month cadence of OPNFV
14:32:15 <trozet> #info Apex upstream TripleO/RDO already uses CI evolution and does promotion on a per project basis
14:45:44 <fdegir> trozet: that's what I was trying to explain
14:46:02 <fdegir> trozet: what we talk about here is what's been used by many so i don't get what the problem is
14:47:23 <fdegir> +1 to what Tim sys
14:47:26 <fdegir> says*
14:50:04 <trozet> i think xci should not be a "tool"
14:50:10 <trozet> openstack-ansible + bifrost is the tool
14:51:00 <fdegir> :)
14:51:03 <fdegir> thanks for that
14:51:12 <fdegir> we have xci
14:51:26 <fdegir> and we have tooling helping us to reach the level we want
14:51:35 <fdegir> it's like jenkins vs zuul
14:51:51 <fdegir> both are helping to run ci
14:58:21 <trozet> there is going to be more burden on functest to support testing multiple versions of OS
15:03:50 <fdegir> opnfv doesn't do good job at locking versions down
15:04:07 <fdegir> our release is different a day after the marketing message
15:04:41 <yifei> compass has package pinning itself
15:04:58 <yifei> I think this should be done be installers themself
15:05:06 <yifei> by
15:05:06 <fdegir> yifei: agree to that
15:05:12 <fdegir> yifei: but not all of them do that
15:05:33 <fdegir> not naming names
15:06:55 <fdegir> thanks
15:06:58 <yifei> another way to solve this is having a totally offline deployment with an artifacts
17:04:32 <bramwelt> #endmeeting