==================================== #acumos-meeting: Acumos OA&M Project ==================================== Meeting started by bryan_att at 15:08:25 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/acumos-meeting/2018/acumos-meeting.2018-06-21-15.08.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * attendees Bryan, Krish, Nat, Parichay (aimeeu, 15:09:50) * conflicts, so Bryan will send out a doodle poll to determine optimal meeting time (aimeeu, 15:11:14) * #link https://wiki.acumos.org/display/OAM/Meetings (aimeeu, 15:12:20) * Krish: do we need any other repos? or will the existing 2 repos be sufficient? (aimeeu, 15:12:52) * Bryan: system-integration will be for platform deployment, platform-oam will be for associated tools such as logging (aimeeu, 15:14:02) * Krish: should reports and/or a reporting tool be part of platform-oam (aimeeu, 15:15:31) * Parichay: backup and disaster recovery should be part of platform-oam (aimeeu, 15:15:49) * Bryan: good scope; we will evolve as more items are incoporated (aimeeu, 15:17:02) * Bryan shows list of not-closed Jira items for system-integration and platform-oam (aimeeu, 15:17:54) * Krish: let's focus on prioritizing - let's focus on the High items (aimeeu, 15:20:33) * Vishnu (vrov) joined the meeting (aimeeu, 15:21:11) * #link https://jira.acumos.org/browse/ACUMOS-1043 (aimeeu, 15:21:59) * this encompasses back end; different companies may wish to use different DBs; we should provide different options, not exclude, and let operator decide what back-end components to use (aimeeu, 15:23:35) * Bryan: AIO script has ability to specify pre-existing components, such as database, so database wouldn't be installed (aimeeu, 15:24:27) * AIO script lacks upgrade/migration (aimeeu, 15:24:46) * Krish: Parichay - what type of storage do we support, how do we specify different storage types - we need to work through and create a good solution (aimeeu, 15:25:40) * Bryan: k8s - important to have data live outside the Docker containers (aimeeu, 15:26:16) * persistent volumes (aimeeu, 15:26:31) * Krish: some platforms, like Azure, provide load balancing; Acumos needs to be more generic in how it uses a load balancer (aimeeu, 15:27:10) * Bryan: need to provide clear guidance; not all load balancers support Kong - need to solve this reverse proxy with different load balancers (aimeeu, 15:28:27) * Krish: Parichay has been working on kong with k8s (aimeeu, 15:29:18) * Bryan: problem with kong in k8s cluster is that you can't expose 8080 or 443 (aimeeu, 15:29:51) * Bryan explains (aimeeu, 15:29:57) * Krish - we've been working on this - need to sync up (aimeeu, 15:30:24) * Krish provides details (aimeeu, 15:30:43) * discussion between Bryan and Krish; implication is that the installation must have a load-balancer (aimeeu, 15:31:54) * Krish: goal is to provide complete k8s with nothing running outside (on docker ce for example) (aimeeu, 15:33:27) * Kirsh: for k8s, should we pick a single environment (Azure, bare metal, etc) and then expand to other environments? (aimeeu, 15:34:42) * Krish: for k8s, should we pick a single environment (Azure, bare metal, etc) and then expand to other environments? (aimeeu, 15:35:03) * Bryan: k8s deployment of the platform should not differ based on environment (aimeeu, 15:35:44) * standing up a load-balancer may be environment dependent but that's out of scope (aimeeu, 15:36:14) * Krish points out that an environment such as Azure provides a lot already set up compared to bare metal (aimeeu, 15:37:01) * Bryan: we should be pure cloud native - doesn't matter where it's deployed, process should be the same (aimeeu, 15:37:52) * Bryan: we will work collaboratively to address these issues (aimeeu, 15:38:09) * https://jira.acumos.org/browse/ACUMOS-1091 (aimeeu, 15:38:34) * #link https://jira.acumos.org/browse/ACUMOS-1091 (aimeeu, 15:38:51) * Krish: we need get some of the ONAP ELK people to take an active role in Acumos (aimeeu, 15:39:29) * Ken: is this Sponden's area? (aimeeu, 15:39:45) * Ken Kristiansen joined the meeting (aimeeu, 15:40:02) * Krish: currently under platform-oam but if it grows, it could be split into a separate project (aimeeu, 15:40:54) * consensus that Sponden should be involved (aimeeu, 15:41:18) * Parichay has done a lot of work in this ELK area (aimeeu, 15:42:02) * Ken: Sponden has been leading the effort between ONAP and Acumos ELK effort (aimeeu, 15:42:34) * Ken: recommends Bryan have a call with Sponden (aimeeu, 15:43:17) * Bryan will reach out to Sponden to understand what he's done and how he can help drive ELK in Acumos (aimeeu, 15:43:51) * Krish: missing from Jira is functionality to query database to build reports; we need to discuss this further (aimeeu, 15:46:10) * Krish: metrics examples: how many people logged in, how many models uploaded, etc - reports that business managers want (aimeeu, 15:46:52) * Krish: need to be clear that business metrics are needed and that they aren't based on physical resources (aimeeu, 15:47:40) * need to enhance logging capabilities to capture what is currently missing, such as IP addresses of users (aimeeu, 15:48:49) * access logs of client IP addresses (aimeeu, 15:49:04) * Ken: Parichay is already working on these initiatives and is almost done (aimeeu, 15:50:21) * Ken: pulling data directly from database is only temporary until a solution is found (aimeeu, 15:51:22) * Krish: need to set log retention (aimeeu, 15:51:40) * need to give users choice of retention period (aimeeu, 15:51:55) * Bryan asks for help prioritizing Jira tickets (aimeeu, 15:53:22) * Bryan asks for who will focus on what (aimeeu, 15:54:17) * Logging: Parichay (aimeeu, 15:54:27) * Bryan/Krish: Parichay should be made a committer in system-integration (aimeeu, 15:56:22) * Question about Amit Mishra's continuing involvement - he will be back the first week in July (aimeeu, 15:58:06) * ACTION: Bryan will sent out email about meeting times (aimeeu, 16:00:12) Meeting ended at 16:02:16 UTC. 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