13:58:36 <pramchan> #startmeeting opnfv-mano 13:58:36 <collabot`> Meeting started Wed Oct 11 13:58:36 2017 UTC. The chair is pramchan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:58:36 <collabot`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:58:36 <collabot`> The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_mano' 13:59:18 <pramchan> #chair pramchan bryan_att uli-k 13:59:18 <collabot`> Current chairs: bryan_att pramchan uli-k 13:59:37 <pramchan> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=6827111 14:00:09 <pramchan> Please type in info who are on line at irc to particpate 14:00:23 <pramchan> No GTM irc only meeting today 14:00:43 <pramchan> #link to agenda https://wiki.opnfv.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=6827111 14:02:24 <pramchan> #topic agenda bashing 14:03:04 <pramchan> Three items on agenda 1.Agenda Bashing 2. White Paper discussions - Any proposals or eBook-4-MANO? 3. Follow up from last week. 14:03:04 <mohankumar> #info mohankumar 14:03:47 <pramchan> welcome Mohan any thing you want to add or we can cover yours under 3rd item? 14:05:01 <mohankumar> pramchan : No 14:05:28 <mohankumar> pramchan: we an cover at last 14:05:36 <pramchan> #ok lets move on to whitepaper or ebook as we call now 14:06:21 <pramchan> #topic White Paper discussions - Any proposals or eBook-4-MANO? 14:07:02 <pramchan> #I have a proposal and we can use it as framework for eBook 14:07:12 <pramchan> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=6827111&preview=/6827111/13205779/eBook-4-EUPHRATES-AND-BEYOND.pdf 14:08:03 <pramchan> #Please lets go over Table of content and details 1 page at atime 14:08:48 <pramchan> #info eBook: OPNFV MANO Stack Support -Euprates and Beyond 14:09:53 <pramchan> So idea here is we provide the current state of OPNFV in Euphrates and beyond it will be shaped by our efforts and Market changes 14:10:18 <mohankumar> okay ..got it .. 14:11:18 <pramchan> #info Next have broadly put a Table of Content to divide efforts into chapters - see page 2 Table of Content 14:12:27 <pramchan> #info Gloassary to cover abbreviations runs to 2 pages 3-4 before getting to intro 14:13:39 <pramchan> #a glance through glossary is worth because it is difficult to describe OPNFV MANO without it 14:14:06 <pramchan> #info then we move to Intrduction 14:15:43 <pramchan> #info page 5 intoduction states the purpose - This is a summary of the OPNFV support for upstream MANO Stacks. 14:16:41 <pramchan> #note our efforts has been is based on NFV Reference Architecture (RA) so we start with that 14:17:49 <pramchan> #info thus we start with NFV RA and show what's completed by OPNFV and what's we take from or support MANO stack upstream 14:19:08 <pramchan> #info clearly OPNFV does not coverall aspects of NFV RA 14:19:49 <pramchan> #info Can say to do that we need to complement with MANO upstreams -->NFV RA : OPNFV + MANO 14:21:19 <pramchan> #info OPNFV covers Bottle green portion at bottom of stack ie. NFVI + VIM and we call it baseline of NFV RA 14:22:06 <narindergupta> #info Narinder Gupta 14:24:47 <pramchan> #info additionally we did attempt and try cover ETSI standards and the gaps exists as we have an opinianated implementaion with OpenStack and ODL as core when we started and lot has changed but still the foundation is Openstack and hence the differention was carved out in terms of support for RAS + FCAPS for Telco cloud 14:26:20 <mohankumar> FCAPS means ? 14:27:33 <pramchan> #info we did struggle with challenges early i A-B but stlled for testing and Scenario to allow different configuraions and installers to manage orchestarte VNF and VNF LCM as documented in next pasge 8 14:29:03 <pramchan> #like to seek contributions and comments to clean this up as community partciapnets from different workgroup and areas have different view point and I am addressing MNAO WG viewpoint here 14:31:14 <pramchan> #info Page 7 I missed two points - a. Current OPNFV Consolidation with other projects as expected to hear that after todays Board meeting 14:32:44 <pramchan> #This appears currently to be OPNFV , ONAP, ODL, FDIO, IOVisor and we will have better idea over the quarter as the Projects align under LF 14:34:31 <pramchan> #info another is emergence of XCI, the third party CI si ilar to Openstack , but geraed towards OPNFV required upstream outside in. Its a good development and help compenste the stability and agile deployment and reduce dependency on release rush 14:35:20 <pramchan> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=6827111&preview=/6827111/13205779/eBook-4-EUPHRATES-AND-BEYOND.pdf 14:35:32 <pramchan> #i will go to page 9 on it now 14:38:15 <pramchan> #info here we find OPNF very intresting 14:38:18 <pramchan> Is MANO in or over OPNFV? Its both!!! 14:39:45 <pramchan> #Info OPNFV covers Pharos configuration bt thats limited for community lab and still needs to evolve for production usage 14:39:58 <trinaths> what is means "OVER OPNFV" ? 14:40:57 <pramchan> #info you have stack of VIM+VNFM+NFVO as per NFV Reference Architecture and OPNFV implements VIM out of that 14:42:24 <pramchan> #info and OPNFV implements or uses NFVI but leaves out VNFs (some samples but no Vendor specifc or commercial) and OSS/BSS out of the NFV refernce Architecture 14:43:47 <pramchan> #Thus OPNFV includes some modules and Excludes some modules of stack so whe we build NFV RA we are at bottome of the stack called SUT refer page 6 and 8 14:44:21 <pramchan> #Trinath does that explain? 14:45:31 <pramchan> #ok i will move on to page 10 for Upstream MANO and 11 for use cases 14:45:38 <trinaths> ok. please move on 14:46:37 <pramchan> #info Upstream MANO - we need contributors for this for ONAP and OpenBaton and will receive some inputs from Opera/Auto and Orchestar over email to close on this 14:47:57 <pramchan> #info in Euprates the partciaption was limited as the transition from OPEN-O to ONAP and for Orchestra from OpenIMS to Cearwate vIMS was bit challenging but they did their best with resource limitations at hand 14:49:22 <pramchan> #info hope the situation changes in next week or two and these proejcts have opted to rejoin in Fraser release and hope that will take care Beyons Euprates to strategize and execute better 14:50:16 <pramchan> #info call for action : Please join OPNFV Plugfest at Hilsboro, Oregon. December 4 - 8, 2017 14:50:42 <pramchan> #info https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/EVNT/Plugfest+- +Euphrates+Release 14:51:32 <pramchan> #undo 14:51:32 <collabot`> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x36c7b50> 14:51:44 <pramchan> #info https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/EVNT/Plugfest+-+Euphrates+Release 14:52:24 <pramchan> #topic Actions from last week 14:52:31 <pramchan> #link http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-mano/2017/opnfv-mano.2017-10-04-14.05.txt 14:53:47 <pramchan> #info any updates on partcipation in test working group for Dovestack or alternate project like Muti-arch ? Mohan and TRinath? 14:54:07 <trinaths> We are in discussion from NXP end. 14:55:05 <pramchan> #OK please note next week is last week for F release particpation must do it this week or will be bumped tp G release 14:55:15 <trinaths> ok 14:55:28 <trinaths> i will raise a alert in our meeting 14:55:32 <pramchan> #Whats the holding can we help any way? 14:56:49 <pramchan> #info as I indicated I will be submitting my intention to drop out as MANO WG chair this week and looking for soemone to carry on this role for F &G 14:57:01 <trinaths> our lab setup we received couple of new ARM boards. 14:57:32 <trinaths> we support your leadership pramchan 14:57:37 <trinaths> for mano-wg 14:58:20 <mohankumar> pramchan , I can share some code for new proposal 14:58:22 <pramchan> #OK then propose focus on Multiarch rather than Dovestack which is more test focussed, whereas Multiarch will need to focus on ARM64 controler 14:59:22 <trinaths> true said. we are purchasing Arm controller (2) for the lab initially 14:59:27 <pramchan> #Note please post the proposal online and we can edit it as the approval of project takes two to four weeks and therefore even if it is raw just post it on Project Propsal page asap 15:00:13 <trinaths> ok sure 15:00:14 <pramchan> #action Trinath to post Muliarch proposal on link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Project+Proposals 15:00:37 <pramchan> #info Multiarch - correction 15:01:47 <pramchan> #in fo we will support as community as a new fetaure in release F and work out a Scenario David McBride will be happy to get you in, please send email to TSC and Techwork group for discussions 15:02:10 <pramchan> Release F needs new ideas 15:02:38 <pramchan> #info reached top of hour please email anything you need 15:02:48 <pramchan> #will end meeting now 15:03:04 <trinaths> OK 15:03:07 <pramchan> #endmeeting opnfv-mano