13:59:25 <ChrisPriceAB> #startmeeting TSC Meeting
13:59:25 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Sep  1 13:59:25 2015 UTC.  The chair is ChrisPriceAB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:59:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Roll Call
13:59:36 <uli-k> #info Uli Kleber
13:59:38 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price
14:00:09 <pbandzi_> #info peter bandzi (on behalf of Frank Brockners)
14:00:22 <dduffey> #info David Duffey
14:00:23 <chenshuai> #info chenshuai
14:00:24 <Wenjing> #info Wenjing Chu
14:00:28 <radez> #info Dan Radez
14:01:41 <Tapio_T> #info Tapio Tallgren
14:01:43 <GeraldK> #info Gerald Kunzmann (proxy for DOCOMO)
14:02:22 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Agenda Bashing
14:02:34 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/tsc TSC Agenda
14:04:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Armband to be added to the creation review list
14:05:03 <ChrisPriceAB> #info LF pod discussion to be added, extra router need
14:05:51 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Uli raises the topic of running CI and the community labs, including needed support for Pharos.
14:06:38 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Upcoming OPNFV elections
14:07:13 <dneary> #info Dave Neary (proxy for Chris Wright)
14:07:27 <rpaik> we now have quorum
14:07:54 <dku> #info Dirk Kutscher
14:08:00 <GeraldK> #info goal is to have TSC chair and committers elected before board elections
14:08:13 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan
14:08:14 <dneary> I'm stuck in a waiting room with terrible network connectivity
14:08:18 <julien_ZTE> #info Julien
14:08:46 <GeraldK> #info nominations for TSC and committer board member starting from today
14:09:10 <rpaik> #link http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/opnfv-tsc/2015-August/001229.html
14:09:19 <GeraldK> can you add me as chair for this meeting
14:10:14 <GeraldK> #info first election is for TSC chair open for all TSC members
14:10:40 <GeraldK> #info second election if for a committer board member open for all current OPNFV committers
14:12:09 <GeraldK> #info Uli proposed to have discussion on wish-candidate for committer board member
14:12:28 <bryan_att> for the committer board member, it would be good to make sure the expectations e.g. presence in board meetings (physically as needed) etc is clear.
14:12:45 <dneary> Are there any limits on who can be elected? Are there, for examle, limits on how many board reps a single company can have?
14:12:46 <TomNadeau> +1
14:13:32 <GeraldK> #info Uli mentions original intention of that committer member in the board was to bring more technical opinion to the board
14:13:41 <dneary> Also, is there a list of current committers? I don't believe I'm a committer on any project, for example, but have been quite active in the technical community
14:13:47 <TomNadeau> what do we do if that person is also on the TSC?
14:14:11 <bryan_att> it should be also clear that the person will need to wear a "TSC" or "technical community" hat rather than their own company hat, at the board
14:14:16 <TomNadeau> that person would have 2 votes, etc... ODL did this by having multiple people.
14:14:20 <rpaik> a single company can have 2 board members
14:15:12 <ChrisPriceAB> #action ChrisPriceAB to set a slice in the tech discuss call to discuss the committer election.
14:15:33 <dneary> TomNadeau, Good point, ChrisPriceAB is wearing 2 hats at the moment
14:15:37 <bryan_att> we should vote with those characteristics in mind - will this person represent the technical community best
14:16:04 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV design summit in November
14:17:23 <dneary> #info Summit planning is final, and speakers have been notified
14:17:45 <ChrisPriceAB> #link http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/opnfv-summit/program/schedule OPNFV Summit program
14:17:57 <HKirksey> https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/OPNFV_Design_Summit_2015
14:18:00 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/OPNFV_Design_Summit_2015 OPNFV Design summit planning ethepad
14:18:07 <dneary> #info Some talks were moved to the Design Summit which is in early stages now
14:18:59 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Additional sessions can be proposed to the design summit
14:19:09 <rpaik> #info ODP & OpenDaylight will also co-locate their hackfests during the OPNFV Design Summit in November
14:19:12 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the design summit will be colocated with the OpenDaylight design summit
14:20:13 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the design summit will additionally play host to an ODP summit on the second day.
14:20:38 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chanchai proposes a discussion on the topic of carrier grade
14:21:05 <GeraldK> I fixed the wiki page
14:21:21 <ChrisPriceAB> thanks Gerald
14:21:56 <HKirksey> Thanks Gerald
14:22:25 * HKirksey not a coder, even for Wiki
14:22:26 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic TSC 2016 Events Schedule
14:22:35 <dneary> #info Talk slots will be 20 minutes, panels 40 minutes, and labs 60 minutes; session chairs will crack the whip for time-keeping
14:22:47 <dneary> #undo
14:23:27 <ChrisPriceAB> #info initial proposals for the 4 planned design summit events for 2016 are:
14:23:42 <ChrisPriceAB> #info At the LinuxFoundation collaboration summit in California in March
14:24:37 <ChrisPriceAB> #info At the OPNFV Summit in Europe in June
14:25:22 <ChrisPriceAB> #info At the orange sillicon valley campus in California in Q3 prior to the C-Release
14:25:34 <ChrisPriceAB> #info At LinuxCon Europe in October
14:26:00 <bryan_att> can this draft schedule be posted on the wiki?
14:26:11 <ChrisPriceAB> Yes we can and should do that Bryan
14:26:38 <ildikov> bryan_att: ChrisPriceAB: +1
14:26:44 <GeraldK> I can add it to the Wiki
14:27:00 <ChrisPriceAB> Gerald == resident wiki expert!
14:28:03 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair dneary
14:28:03 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary
14:28:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair rpaik
14:28:06 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary rpaik
14:28:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair HKirksey
14:28:20 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB HKirksey dneary rpaik
14:30:07 <RayNugent_> #info ask for email with dates of proposed hackfest schedule
14:30:29 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic LF DC discussion, sourcing another router to reduce downtime
14:31:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there is a need for additional vlans in the DC due to our repurposing of the DC.  Adding vlans affects services, installing a router for OPNFV will reduce our coupling to the infrastructure
14:31:44 <rpaik> #info additional router will cost ~$1500
14:31:48 <ChrisPriceAB> #info adding a router will cost around $1,500 USD
14:32:40 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Shall the TSC allocate approximately $1500 USD to purchase a router for the lab? (-1, 0, +1)
14:32:40 <collabot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC allocate approximately $1500 USD to purchase a router for the lab? Valid vote options are , -1, 0, +1, .
14:32:40 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:32:42 <bryan_att> #vote +1
14:32:43 <TomNadeau> #vote +1
14:32:45 <Tapio_T> #vote +1
14:32:45 <Wenjing> #vote +1
14:33:05 <uli-k> #vote +1
14:33:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1
14:33:05 <julien_ZTE> #vote +1
14:33:05 <dneary> #vote +1
14:33:05 <pbandzi_> #vote +1
14:33:05 <bjskerry> # vote +1
14:33:05 <AndreaP> #vote +1
14:33:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
14:33:05 <collabot> Voted on "Shall the TSC allocate approximately $1500 USD to purchase a router for the lab?" Results are
14:33:05 <collabot> +1 (10): AndreaP, dneary, TomNadeau, bryan_att, ChrisPriceAB, pbandzi_, Tapio_T, uli-k, julien_ZTE, Wenjing
14:33:18 <TomNadeau> put it on our credit card *)
14:34:13 <GeraldK> meetings 2016 are on the wiki: https://wiki.opnfv.org/start?&#events_tentative
14:34:24 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Weekly Brahmaputra release project meeting
14:34:42 <bryan_att> ChrisPriceAB:  "up to $100k"? - it would be great to know the details of what LF ordered for the pods as we try to budget our own internal pods
14:35:05 <TomNadeau> @ChrisPrice:  If we have time, I'd like to raise the issue of the proliferation of project meetings that @dneary and I raised on the list last week.
14:35:06 <collabot> TomNadeau: Error: "ChrisPrice:" is not a valid command.
14:35:09 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Debra will run the first Brahmaputra planning meeting after the TSC call and will begin work on setting milestone C planning
14:35:24 <TomNadeau> ChrisPrice - If we have time, I'd like to raise the issue of the proliferation of project meetings that @dneary and I raised on the list last week.
14:35:24 <TomNadeau> no prob
14:35:51 <dneary> TomNadeau, Thanks :-) Happy to have some time next week ChrisPriceAB
14:36:10 * dneary notes release artifact discussion also bumped...
14:36:19 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Project creationg review for the SDNVPN project
14:36:25 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/sdnvpn project proposal
14:36:53 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Tim outlines the project intends to address extending VPN's in the datacenter
14:37:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Tim describes that there is background work in various upstream projects and that the time is right to begin the project in OPNFV
14:38:07 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the committer list is not up to date at this time.
14:39:50 <ChrisPriceAB> #info uli-k asks if we should consider all controllers in this project?
14:40:15 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Tim responds that it depends on contribution into the project.  Adding other controllers should be achievable.
14:41:53 <ChrisPriceAB> #info clarification on the described scope of the project:  The project will be done in collaboration with the related bgpvpn project in OpenStack and supported implementations in SDN controllers to make sure that the functionality can be integrated on the OPNFV reference platform for the Brahmaputra release and onwards.
14:43:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #info a question was raised if this project will develop code upstream, tim responds that developers from many upstream projects are involved in the OPNFV project
14:44:24 <dlenrow> #info dlenrow
14:46:09 <dneary> I don't have any issue with this, but it doesn't match what we've done in the past re committer review
14:46:13 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Vote to create the SDNVPN project? (+1, 0, -1)
14:46:13 <collabot> Begin voting on: Vote to create the SDNVPN project? Valid vote options are , +1, 0, -1, .
14:46:13 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:46:15 <bryan_att> #vote +1
14:46:16 <dlenrow> #vote +1
14:46:17 <TomNadeau> #vote +1
14:46:19 <Tapio_T_> #vote +1
14:46:19 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1
14:46:21 <dneary> #vote +1
14:46:21 <uli-k> #vote +1
14:46:24 <bjskerry> # vote +1
14:46:24 <pbandzi_> #vote +1
14:46:26 <dku> #vote +1
14:46:27 <julien_ZTE> #vote +1
14:46:35 <GeraldK> #vote +1
14:46:41 <dneary> bjskerry, You need to do #vote (no space)
14:46:41 <rpaik> #vote +1
14:46:46 <VikramDham> vote +1 (Wenjing)
14:46:46 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
14:46:46 <collabot> Voted on "Vote to create the SDNVPN project?" Results are
14:46:46 <collabot> +1 (12): dneary, dku, dlenrow, TomNadeau, GeraldK, bryan_att, ChrisPriceAB, Tapio_T_, pbandzi_, uli-k, julien_ZTE, rpaik
14:46:50 <rpaik> #info proxy for Wenjing
14:47:24 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Creation review of the Controller Performance Testing project
14:47:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/project_proposals/cperf Controller Performance Testing proposal
14:48:35 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Dan outlines a desire to establish a project that performs performance testing of controllers in real hardware deployments for SDN controllers
14:48:59 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there will be participation from the upastream ODL performance testing project
14:49:17 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the team explicitly intends to work with academic and standards groups
14:50:32 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the team additionally hopes to work with other SDN controller teams in this project
14:51:35 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the question is posed if OVN is in this scope, dan responds that OVN is not currently in scope and implements a different architecture which may make it challenging
14:53:14 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Vote to create the controller performance testing project? (+1, 0, -1)
14:53:14 <collabot> Begin voting on: Vote to create the controller performance testing project? Valid vote options are , +1, 0, -1, .
14:53:14 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:53:24 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1
14:53:25 <Tapio_T_> #vote +1
14:53:27 <dneary> #vote +1
14:53:27 <bryan_att> #vote +1
14:53:27 <TomNadeau> #vote +1
14:53:27 <pbandzi_> #vote +1
14:53:28 <uli-k> #vote +1
14:53:30 <ramki> vote 1
14:53:32 <dlenrow> #vote +1
14:53:34 <AndreaP> #vote 0
14:53:38 <rpaik> #vote +1
14:53:39 <ramki> #vote 1
14:53:39 <collabot> ramki: 1 is not a valid option. Valid options are , +1, 0, -1, .
14:53:41 <julien_ZTE> #vote 0
14:53:48 <rpaik> #info proxy for Wenjing
14:53:58 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
14:53:58 <collabot> Voted on "Vote to create the controller performance testing project?" Results are
14:53:58 <collabot> 0 (2): AndreaP, julien_ZTE
14:53:58 <collabot> +1 (9): dneary, dlenrow, TomNadeau, bryan_att, ChrisPriceAB, Tapio_T_, pbandzi_, uli-k, rpaik
14:54:04 <uli-k> please add haoyu zhang to the project still.
14:54:24 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Creation review of the dovetail project.
14:54:34 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/project_proposals/opnfv_compliance dovetail proposal
14:56:27 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, Dovetail - great name! ;-)
14:57:04 <ChrisPriceAB> #info chrispriceab outlines the proposal and there were no further questions.
14:57:26 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Vote to create the dovetail project? (-1, 0, +1)
14:57:26 <collabot> Begin voting on: Vote to create the dovetail project? Valid vote options are , -1, 0, +1, .
14:57:26 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:57:30 <bryan_att> #vote +1
14:57:34 <julien_ZTE> #vote +1
14:57:36 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1
14:57:36 <uli-k> #vote +1
14:57:36 <bjskerry> #vote +1
14:57:37 <dlenrow> #vote +1
14:57:37 <pbandzi_> #vote +1
14:57:38 <Tapio_T_> #vote +1
14:57:39 <dku> #vote +1
14:57:40 <dneary> #vote +1
14:57:42 <AndreaP> #vote +1
14:57:42 <rpaik> #vote +1
14:57:46 <GeraldK> #vote +1
14:57:46 <dlenrow> Worlds fastest creation review
14:57:52 <rpaik> #info proxy for Wenjing
14:58:02 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote
14:58:02 <collabot> Voted on "Vote to create the dovetail project?" Results are
14:58:02 <collabot> +1 (13): AndreaP, dneary, dku, dlenrow, GeraldK, bryan_att, ChrisPriceAB, Tapio_T_, pbandzi_, uli-k, julien_ZTE, bjskerry, rpaik
15:00:45 <ChrisPriceAB> #endmeeting