14:59:51 <tallgren1> #startmeeting Weekly TSC meeting
14:59:51 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Jan 17 14:59:51 2017 UTC.  The chair is tallgren1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:59:51 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'weekly_tsc_meeting'
15:00:00 <uli-k> #info Uli Kleber
15:00:02 <rossella_s> #info Rossella Sblendido
15:00:03 <hongbo222> #info Hongbo Tian
15:00:06 <tallgren1> #info Tapio Tallgren
15:00:13 <bh526r> #info Bin Hu
15:00:14 <timirnich> #info Tim Irnich
15:00:24 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners
15:00:26 <fdegir> #info Fatih Degirmenci
15:01:02 <rpaik> we now have a quorum
15:01:17 <jmorgan1> #info Jack Morgan
15:01:21 <bjskerry> #info Brian Skerry
15:01:26 <rpaik> #topic approval of previous minutes
15:01:32 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan
15:01:43 <dneary> #info Dave Neary
15:01:50 <morgan_orange> #info Morgan Richomme
15:02:04 <edgarstp> #info Edgar StPierre
15:02:07 <rpaik> #info no comments on previous minutes thus approved
15:02:15 <StuartMackie> #info Stuart Mackie
15:02:20 <rpaik> #topic agenda bashing
15:02:52 <rpaik> #chair ChrisPriceAB
15:03:17 <trevor_intel> #info Trevor Cooper
15:03:45 <ChrisPriceAB> #info #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/TSC#TSC-January17,2017 todays agenda as described by Tapio
15:04:36 <rpaik> #info no additional topics
15:04:56 <naga> #info naga chumbalkar
15:04:58 <rpaik> #info there will be termination review in two weeks on a couple of projects
15:05:03 <Julien-zte> #info Julien
15:05:10 <tallgren1> #chair rpaik
15:05:10 <collabot> Current chairs: rpaik tallgren1
15:05:20 <rpaik> #topic meetings calendar
15:05:21 <tallgren1> #chair chrispriceab
15:05:21 <collabot> Current chairs: chrispriceab rpaik tallgren1
15:05:40 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/ds/Multi+Calendar+Example
15:05:45 <tallgren1> #topic Meetings page on the wiki.opnfv.org
15:05:58 <tallgren1> #undo
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15:07:23 <tallgren1> The two projects applying for termination review were Inspector and Prediction
15:09:46 <tallgren1> #info The new meetings page allows to update meeting information on a single page
15:11:11 <rpaik> #info consensus was to try out the new meeting page approaches and see if there are further areas for improvement going forward
15:11:48 <rpaik> #action rpaik to confirm that the meeting times are in either UTC or Pacific Time
15:12:46 <Julien-zte> I think it shows the local time rpaik
15:14:57 <tallgren1> #info The meeting page is still missing the information about which GoToMeeting account to use
15:16:59 <rpaik> #topic Dovetail update
15:17:07 <tallgren1> #topic Dovetail update
15:17:13 <tallgren1> #undo
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15:18:48 <rpaik> #info Wenjing provided an update on the Dovetail project and noted that focus has been on testing NFVi + VIM
15:19:16 <rpaik> #info also the testing will be for each OPNFV release
15:20:47 <hongbo222> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/dovetail/Dovetail+Test+Case+Requirements
15:21:32 <hongbo222> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/dovetail/Dovetail+Test+Areas+and+Test+Cases
15:22:42 <rpaik> #info the Dovetail team is in the process of reviewing test cases and dependencies
15:23:01 <hongbo222> ehterpad
15:23:18 <hongbo222> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/collabrationofdovetail
15:24:18 <tallgren1> #info Dovetail has a test case list on the wiki page
15:24:59 <tallgren1> #info There is also an Etherpad page that has more free-form information such as the state of the documentatio
15:25:25 <trevor_intel_> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/collabrationofdovetail
15:26:00 <tallgren1> #info The file compliance_set.yml will define the final set of test cases
15:26:27 <tallgren1> #info The files like ipv6_tc001.yml will define the test
15:28:20 <tallgren1> #info The tests will be reviewed in gerrit. Whenever there is something to review, at least the test working group will be notified
15:28:22 <rpaik> #info as Dovetail team add new cases, they will communicate to project teams plus Test WG
15:30:39 <rpaik> #info test cases are designed to run either in a private lab (i.e. self test) or at a 3rd party lab.  Test runs will also be authenticated
15:30:42 <bryan_att> #info Consensus in dovetail was that the risk of dovetail result abuse/fraud is minimal and manageable
15:33:49 <bryan_att> #info the complexity of any such fraud attempt, and the negative effect of it coming to light, will inhibit implementors (who want to sell their product and be trusted) from attempting it
15:35:22 <rpaik> #info good discussion on how much we want to make "fabrication"  of results difficult
15:36:29 <ChrisPriceAB> Completely agree Trevor
15:38:38 <tallgren1> Agree with Trevor also, documenting the results and the configuration would be very valuable
15:39:06 <rpaik> #info there needs to be more discussion among Dovetail team on detailed trace and un-modified output
15:39:37 <tallgren1> #info The timeline is to report to Test WG ion Jan 19, and have final TSC review and approval on Feb 14
15:39:51 <rpaik> #info final test case requirements/cases/etc. will be presented to the TSC in about a month for approval
15:40:02 <tallgren1> #info Release date is planned for Mar 14
15:43:36 <tallgren1> #topic Quaterly project health metrics
15:43:56 <rpaik> #topic OPNFV projects metrics
15:44:16 <bryan_att> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/download/attachments/2926284/Q4%272016%20OPNFV%20Project%20Health%20Metrics%20Jan-16-2017.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1484606743408&api=v2
15:44:30 <tallgren1> #chair bryan_att
15:44:30 <collabot> Current chairs: bryan_att chrispriceab rpaik tallgren1
15:44:46 <jmorgan1> rpaik: scroll down a bit to see legend
15:45:06 <rprakash> #info rprakash
15:45:56 <bryan_att> #info I recommend that assumptions about "level of activity" be clarified in the report, and caveats about mi-interpretation of this data that need to be avoided.
15:46:56 <bryan_att> #info in particular, different projects go thru phases in which activity (e.g. commits) are inhibited by the unavailability of current release installer support
15:48:09 <bryan_att> #info also various other metrics are important to track if you want a fuller view of "activity" - commits are only one
15:48:38 <bryan_att> #info in summary we need to define what we view and value as "health"
15:49:14 <tallgren1> #info jmorgan1 points out that Functest and Releng may get credit for commits from other projects
15:50:34 <fdegir> just to record my view; it is not about getting credit but it is about whole community working on things together
15:51:04 <morgan_orange> +1
15:51:50 <rpaik> #info suggestion for a review period to add relevant comments/explanations
15:52:14 <rpaik> #topic Danube priorities
15:53:24 <rpaik> #info morgan_orange notes that there were additional comments from MANO WG and the Dovetail team on the wiki page
15:53:59 <hongbo222> thank you morgan
15:54:33 <tallgren1> +
15:54:36 <tallgren1> +1
15:58:01 <tallgren1> #info /query dmbride
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15:58:22 <rpaik> #info morgan_orange notes that "community priorities" should be important for  more than 2-3 projects
16:01:17 <uli-k> Agree. Part of release with a pilot
16:01:29 <uli-k> But no discussion of keystone API....
16:01:34 <rpaik> #info discussion should continue via mailing lists
16:02:14 <tallgren1> #endmeeting