13:02:40 <bh526r> #startmeeting Weekly Technical Discussion
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13:02:48 <bh526r> #topic Roll Call
13:02:54 <bh526r> #info Bin Hu
13:03:01 <bh526r> #info Gary Wang
13:03:23 <bjskerry> #info Brian Skerry
13:04:35 <bjskerry> i'm having bridge issues, will call in via phone
13:05:14 <bh526r> sure, Brian
13:05:34 <bh526r> #info Trevor Cooper
13:07:30 <bh526r> #topic KVM4NFV Requirement Gathering
13:07:46 <bh526r> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/kvm
13:08:22 <bh526r> #info Gary mentioned that this KVM project has been in maintenance mode for 2 years
13:08:49 <bh526r> #info Gary and his colleagues, such as Isaku, discussed to make the project more active
13:09:17 <bh526r> #info and convince his management to invest more resources in this project and in OPNFV
13:09:52 <bh526r> #info Gary and Isaku have thought about some of the areas to contribute to the project such as performance improvement
13:10:02 <bh526r> #info and some optimization
13:10:20 <bh526r> #info and consider to contribute patches to this project
13:11:44 <bh526r> #info Thus Gary wants to discuss some requirement for this project
13:12:13 <bh526r> #info Brian indicated that one of the issue is the adoption rather than spinning a fork
13:14:07 <bh526r> #info Gary indicated that some patches may be contributed to OPNFV, and some may be submitted to upstream KVM project
13:14:55 <bh526r> #info Trevor asked if those are existing patches or new patches
13:16:40 <bh526r> #info In another word, if old patches are not accepted by upstream Linux kernel, why new patches?
13:17:07 <bh526r> #info Gary indicated that we are looking for ways for kernel to accept our patches
13:17:44 <bh526r> #info Brian asked if the use case is the real time performance
13:18:06 <bh526r> #info Gary said yes, all existing patches and new patches will be for real time feature
13:20:00 <bh526r> #info Trevor said that maybe some specifics are needed, such as test framework, to show the benefits
13:23:57 <bh526r> #info Gary said that we were focusing on real time, and we want to hear from community if there are more requirement
13:26:14 <bh526r> #info In current project, we were focusing on analyzing the bottleneck and improving the performance. We are looking for some new requirement at overall NFV level
13:26:57 <bh526r> #info i.e. suggestions from industry and ecosystem
13:28:59 <bh526r> #info Brian suggested the direction of container
13:29:50 <bh526r> #info Gary said that the project focused on kernel space, and if there are container requirement, they would be happy to address it and support it
13:30:20 <bh526r> #info Brian also indicated that nevertheless, there is the issue of being accepted by upstream kernel community
13:35:49 <bh526r> #info Trevor suggested to write a proposal as if a new project, and give people the insight of the real scenario that shows the benefit
13:44:36 <bh526r> #info Bin suggested that maybe another way is to analyze how KVM technology can support container
13:45:10 <bh526r> #info Gary said that because of resource constraint, it may be challenging to do such analysis
13:52:40 <bh526r> #info Gary/team will communicate with existing stakeholders/committers of project to get more information
13:59:34 <bh526r> #topic AOB
13:59:38 <bh526r> #info None
13:59:41 <bh526r> #endmeeting