14:00:04 #startmeeting Weekly Technical Discussion 14:00:04 Meeting started Thu Nov 15 14:00:04 2018 UTC. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:04 The meeting name has been set to 'weekly_technical_discussion' 14:00:14 #topic Roll Call 14:00:22 #info Bin Hu 14:00:34 #info Tim Irnich (IRC only for the first 10 min) 14:00:45 Good morning everybody 14:00:55 Good afternoon Tim 14:01:27 So you only have first 10 minutes? 14:02:25 Good morning Trevor 14:02:45 #info Trevor Cooper 14:03:28 #info Yu Yang 14:04:03 #info Cedric Ollivier 14:04:59 #info David McBride 14:05:53 #chair dmcbride 14:05:53 Current chairs: bh526r dmcbride 14:06:32 #topic OPNFV strategy and plan - part 2 14:07:02 #info last week included discussion of status and key objectives 14:11:45 #info ollivier refers to point in key objectives about toolchains being "easy to replicate". 14:12:22 #info This is very difficult to achieve. Other communities, such as OpenStack, have had difficulty with this, as well. 14:13:30 #info Trevor Cooper points out that Pharos has not achieved its original objectives 14:15:37 #info Georg Kunz 14:15:51 #info Trevor Bramwelt 14:16:01 #info Cristina Pauna 14:16:08 #info Mark Beierl 14:17:18 #info Vishnu 14:21:48 #info Cédric Ollivier 14:22:04 #info Gabriel Yu 14:23:19 #info Cristina Pauna 14:23:23 #info Trevor Cooper 14:31:21 #info ollivier asks whether installers should be able to set their own test requirements, or they should be established universally 14:34:21 If we allow all installers to pick tests what they want, we can't make fair comparisions between networking impl and all test frameworks must get their resources. 14:37:31 ollivier: keep in mind that implies stability and predictibility in the test framework changes so that the installer can adapt to the imposed criteria; which eventually puts pressure on the testing framework to prove stability earlier in the process 14:37:42 #info ollivier says "If we allow all installers to pick tests what they want, we can't make fair comparisions between networking impl and all test frameworks must get their resources." 14:38:10 #info CristinaPauna responds "keep in mind that implies stability and predictibility in the test framework changes so that the installer can adapt to the imposed criteria; which eventually puts pressure on the testing framework to prove stability earlier in the process" 14:38:29 CristinaPauna: Agree. That's why I recommend independent gates. 14:39:11 #info Trevor Cooper asks about dependence on OpenStack. What about alternatives (e.g. k8s)? 14:39:50 #info What is the OPNFV objective for Cloud Native? 14:41:03 CristinaPauna: and now Functest delivers earlier (OpenStack master) regarding all installers following the first model 14:41:37 CristinaPauna: or Kubernetes master 14:42:56 ollivier: I know functest delivers earlier now; I was thinkin more of code freeze; but I agree that independent gates will help to this respect and seems the natural way of running things 14:43:12 exit 14:43:45 #info bh526r says that there is an opportunity for OPNFV to provide a devops platform to other communities 15:00:37 #info Need to approve strategy plan in TSC. Subsequently, we will develop detailed work plans and deliverables. 15:02:12 Thank you everyone 15:02:23 Thank you David for taking the minutes 15:06:55 #topic AOB 15:07:10 #info Meeting adjourned 15:07:13 #endmeeting