08:00:54 <yujunz> #startmeeting qtip
08:00:54 <collabot`> Meeting started Mon Dec  5 08:00:54 2016 UTC.  The chair is yujunz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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08:00:54 <collabot`> The meeting name has been set to 'qtip'
08:01:10 <yujunz> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/qtip-meetings-2016-12-05
08:01:15 <yujunz> #topic roll call
08:01:22 <yujunz> #info Yujun Zhang
08:01:25 <Taseer> #info Taseer
08:01:38 <akhilbatra> #info akhilbatra
08:02:05 <SerenaFeng> #info SerenaFeng
08:02:38 <yujunz> #topic action followup
08:02:59 <yujunz> #info [done] yujunz fix permission issues of contact page
08:03:06 <yujunz> Moved to google spreadsheet
08:03:16 <yujunz> #link https://goo.gl/aGJN5n
08:03:29 <yujunz> Please check if there is still issue
08:03:35 <zhihui> #info zhihui
08:04:11 <yujunz> If still can't access, poke me on IRC or email
08:04:28 <yujunz> #info AP zhihui clean up deprecated CI jobs
08:04:36 <yujunz> How is it going, zhihui?
08:05:12 <zhihui> Yes, it is finished.
08:05:27 <yujunz> Have you cleaned also releng?
08:05:37 <zhihui> Not yet.
08:05:50 <yujunz> I think the servers will never come back
08:06:05 <yujunz> Shall we clean up that also?
08:06:16 <zhihui> Do I need to remove them in releng/jjb/qtip-ci-jobs.yml?
08:06:32 <yujunz> Yes, that's the question I am asking
08:06:50 <yujunz> If not used anymore, let's remove them
08:06:57 <zhihui> I remove them from qtip because we are not sure whether qtip support compass4nfv.
08:07:44 <yujunz> compass is not in release D plan
08:07:50 <yujunz> We can add them back when supported
08:08:04 <zhihui> Yes, agree.
08:08:22 <yujunz> Hope we can get all green in the CI page soon :-)
08:08:24 <yujunz> #link https://build.opnfv.org/ci/view/qtip/
08:08:41 <yujunz> All red at the moment...
08:09:03 <zhihui> please review https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/25453/
08:09:11 <yujunz> Will do after meeting
08:09:15 <yujunz> #topic Call for internship mentor
08:09:36 <yujunz> akhilbatra has expressed interested in another intern project
08:10:05 <yujunz> I wonder if any of you could take the role as mentor SerenaFeng zhihui
08:10:32 <SerenaFeng> ok
08:11:03 <zhihui> +1
08:11:15 <yujunz> Great, akhilbatra please contact with SerenaFeng about the project plan
08:11:40 <akhilbatra> Ok thanks.
08:11:44 <yujunz> And after you meet the criteria, e.g. 3 commits in OPNFV, we will do an interview together
08:12:00 <akhilbatra> Sure. Excited
08:12:10 <yujunz> Put me in cc list when you discuss about the plan, thank you
08:12:38 <akhilbatra> Ok :)
08:12:42 <yujunz> #topic CLI intern project plan review
08:13:25 <yujunz> Taseer is not available for a presentation. So let's do it by reviewing the documents
08:13:39 <yujunz> #link https://goo.gl/cWf9cR
08:14:06 <yujunz> #action all review CLI intern project plan on https://goo.gl/cWf9cR
08:14:18 <yujunz> Taseer do you have anything to say ahead?
08:14:45 <Taseer> How will you ensure I have worked 20 hrs/week
08:15:18 <yujunz> You record your working time in toggl timesheet
08:15:27 <Taseer> Ok. Got it
08:15:27 <yujunz> And that's all
08:15:39 <yujunz> You can have a flexible arrangement
08:16:05 <yujunz> In case of examination
08:16:06 <Taseer> I'll have it upated
08:17:07 <yujunz> If anybody has immediate comment about the project plan, please raise your hand
08:17:14 <yujunz> Otherwise we shall continue on next topic
08:18:05 <yujunz> #topic Weekly meeting slot
08:18:43 <yujunz> It seems we still have conflict. Could you list your convenient time slot in the etherpad akhilbatra
08:19:56 <akhilbatra> In the weekly meeting page?
08:20:05 <yujunz> I hope we can work out a better time slot for everyone to participate in the meeting.
08:20:15 <yujunz> Yes
08:20:23 <yujunz> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/qtip-meetings-2016-12-05
08:21:18 <yujunz> #action all list available time for weekly meeting in https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/qtip-meetings-2016-12-05
08:21:20 <SerenaFeng> I suggest we use framadate to do a vote
08:21:26 <akhilbatra> Ok
08:21:28 <SerenaFeng> like https://framadate.org/CTuF3zjRvXhZK3nO
08:21:37 <akhilbatra> Will do it now
08:22:05 <yujunz> #undo
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08:22:07 <yujunz> looks great
08:22:08 <yujunz> I'll create one voting
08:22:10 <yujunz> Include also zhifeng
08:22:14 <SerenaFeng> yujunz you come up with some options there, we can vote which time slot is suitable for us
08:22:35 <yujunz> She once says she can be available if it is not in working hour
08:23:14 <SerenaFeng> she's working hour is so long :)
08:23:19 <yujunz> #action yujunz create a poll for meeting slot with framadate.org or doodle.com
08:23:24 <yujunz> She is superwoman
08:24:04 <akhilbatra> yujunz:  so should i add my slot ir wait for poll?
08:24:10 <yujunz> akhilbatra you can still provide me your available slot so I can narrow down the options
08:24:23 <akhilbatra> *or
08:24:56 <akhilbatra> Ok i am doing it now
08:25:20 <yujunz> Thanks
08:25:26 <yujunz> #topic Sprint QTIP-D3 restropective
08:25:38 <yujunz> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/qtip/Retrospectives
08:26:05 <yujunz> I did the first one alone. Wish more could join so that we can improve the process
08:26:23 <yujunz> This is not mandatory but I really hope to hear your voice
08:27:26 <yujunz> #topic Sprint QTIP-D4 planning
08:27:53 <yujunz> Any plan from your side? SerenaFeng zhihui akhilbatra
08:28:49 <yujunz> On my side, I will start refactoring the runner module from arg_handler and api_server
08:28:55 <yujunz> So that it can be reused by CLI
08:30:13 <zhihui> I am interested in refactor arg_handler.py
08:30:52 <SerenaFeng> no plans for me now, sorry
08:31:00 <yujunz> You can join. What about YardStick integration and CI jobs, zhihui
08:31:04 <SerenaFeng> I will dig into Qtip ASAP
08:31:25 <yujunz> It's OK, SerenaFeng
08:31:32 <akhilbatra> i am still exploring. Can comment something only ij the next meeting
08:31:38 <zhihui> About yardstick integration, I think, after we have a discussion with yardstick team, we can decide which sprint to finish integration task.
08:32:05 <yujunz> OK, akhilbatra
08:32:18 <yujunz> #topic information sharing
08:32:33 <yujunz> I noticed two interesting topics in test-wg mailing list
08:32:47 <yujunz> #link  https://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/test-wg/2016-December/000026.html
08:33:22 <yujunz> This one is more about function test, but we can learn something about self-document
08:34:16 <yujunz> Describe the test cases together with the code to allow generating a report with comprehensive content
08:35:03 <yujunz> I think Python's docstring could be quite powerful in this part
08:35:48 <yujunz> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/test-wg/2016-December/000028.html
08:36:05 <yujunz> Something we want to do in QTIP exactly
08:36:42 <zhihui> Yes.
08:36:50 <yujunz> Please click the links of png to see what he has created
08:37:01 <yujunz> #link http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/test-wg/attachments/20161202/94c14a5a/attachment-0004.png
08:37:10 <yujunz> #link http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/test-wg/attachments/20161202/94c14a5a/attachment-0005.png
08:37:22 <yujunz> http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/test-wg/attachments/20161202/94c14a5a/attachment-0006.png
08:37:31 <yujunz> #link http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/test-wg/attachments/20161202/94c14a5a/attachment-0007.png
08:38:05 <zhihui> but I am curious about the index he gave in attachment-0005.png
08:39:18 <yujunz> Hmm, we care more about the methodology rather than the values
08:39:27 <yujunz> I am trying to get contact with the author
08:40:17 <yujunz> test-wg is another mailing list in opnfv dedicated for testing working group
08:40:29 <yujunz> low traffic but useful threads
08:40:31 <yujunz> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/mailman/listinfo/test-wg
08:40:40 <yujunz> You can subscribe if interested
08:41:14 <yujunz> #topic active sprint followup
08:41:16 <yujunz> #link https://jira.opnfv.org/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?projectKey=QTIP&rapidView=135
08:41:42 <yujunz> Please update the JIRA status and I will close the sprint and start QTIP-D4 tomorrow
08:42:05 <yujunz> #topic CI status
08:42:07 <yujunz> #link https://build.opnfv.org/ci/view/qtip/
08:42:15 <yujunz> zhihui could you give a summary?
08:42:44 <zhihui> Yes,
08:44:05 <yujunz> It seems zhihui is hijacked by yardstick meeting...
08:44:07 <yujunz> In a word, it is still all red
08:44:36 <yujunz> #topic recent updates
08:44:40 <yujunz> #link https://jira.opnfv.org/issues/?filter=11198
08:45:03 <yujunz> Just one thing to notify all
08:45:24 <yujunz> #link https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/QTIP-175
08:45:36 <yujunz> One unit test case is not stable, it may fail randomly
08:45:53 <yujunz> Please put "recheck" in gerrit comment to force a recheck
08:46:13 <yujunz> If you encounter a suspicious failure
08:46:16 <SerenaFeng> why is it fail randomly?
08:46:33 <yujunz> Not sure, it happens.
08:46:53 <yujunz> In OpenStack, they have a dedicated job to deal with random failure
08:46:58 <SerenaFeng> I think the once for all solution to fix it not recheck it
08:46:59 <yujunz> Called elastic recheck
08:47:27 <yujunz> #link status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/
08:48:16 <yujunz> Some bug could be transient and hard to detect
08:48:30 <yujunz> #link http://docs.openstack.org/infra/elastic-recheck/readme.html#idea
08:49:38 <yujunz> Sometimes the failure is not caused by bugs in our project, but temporary failure in the infra
08:49:43 <yujunz> Recheck is to handle that
08:50:16 <yujunz> #topic AoB
08:50:27 <yujunz> Anything you want to talk, it is the time!
08:50:59 <SerenaFeng> nope from my side
08:51:50 <yujunz> Fine. Thank you all.
08:51:53 <yujunz> #endmeeting