#acumos-meeting: Acumos TSC Meeting

Meeting started by bryan_att at 13:00:01 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Bryan Sullivan (bryan_att, 13:00:24)
    2. TSC attending Ofer, Jack, Pantelis (bryan_att, 13:02:47)
    3. we don't have quorum yet (bryan_att, 13:03:03)
    4. Bsidu, ZTE, Tencent, TechM are not present (bryan_att, 13:03:41)
    5. we will agree minutes next time (bryan_att, 13:03:55)

  1. Agenda (bryan_att, 13:04:03)
    1. Jamil Chawki (bryan_att, 13:05:01)
    2. Today is a holiday in China, so TSC members from China are absent (aimeeu, 13:05:38)
    3. Jamil has deck to present under new items "Proposal for Delivering Release A" (bryan_att, 13:05:44)
    4. Topic Technical Community Document Review (bryan_att, 13:07:08)
    5. community will review and decide section by section (bryan_att, 13:08:00)
    6. Today we will talk about defining of roles (bryan_att, 13:08:21)
    7. we will start a new document "Acumos Technical Community Document" (bryan_att, 13:10:00)
    8. call for volunteers as editor of the new version of the document (bryan_att, 13:10:53)
    9. Bryan will work as editor and capture the agreements on the wiki, linked to the TSC main page (bryan_att, 13:12:01)
    10. today we will talk about roles Committer, Contributor, PTL (bryan_att, 13:13:34)
    11. Contributor: Jack reads current text from #link (bryan_att, 13:14:45)
    12. https://wiki.acumos.org/download/attachments/4653595/AcumosTechnicalCommunityDocument.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1524492799000&api=v2 (aimeeu, 13:15:55)
    13. Jack: we should clarify role of users (modelers, model users are not contributors in the sense here) (bryan_att, 13:17:41)
    14. no objection raised to the current text - it will be added to the wiki (bryan_att, 13:18:11)
    15. Jack: Committers bring in additional roles (bryan_att, 13:18:41)
    16. Jack summarizes the current committer description (bryan_att, 13:19:38)
    17. TSC members should provide comments to this section as needed over email (bryan_att, 13:20:47)
    18. Bryan: we will add good judgement guidelines to help people understand what is meant there (bryan_att, 13:22:37)
    19. https://wiki.acumos.org/display/AC/Code+Reviews?src=contextnavpagetreemode (bryan_att, 13:23:34)
    20. no comments or objections to this section at this time - the current text will be moved to the wiki (bryan_att, 13:24:34)
    21. Jack: summarizes the PTL section (bryan_att, 13:25:00)
    22. https://wiki.acumos.org/display/AC/PTL+Guide (bryan_att, 13:25:23)
    23. Ofer: PTL must be a committer (bryan_att, 13:26:22)
    24. Bryan: PTL's are typically active (bryan_att, 13:27:26)
    25. Bryan will start a thread on the detailed roles etc for PTL as described on the wiki (call for comments) (bryan_att, 13:29:04)
    26. Jack: these roles lead up to TSC membership, after the community transitions to elected TSC membership (bryan_att, 13:30:27)
    27. Ofer: how do we start with committers and PTLs (bryan_att, 13:31:16)
    28. Jack shows the section on committees (bryan_att, 13:33:06)
    29. Bryan describes process for getting initial committers and PTLs for projects, based upon the input on the wiki page #link https://wiki.acumos.org/display/AC/Acumos+Architecture+Mapping+to+Repos+Jira+etc (bryan_att, 13:36:10)
    30. Jack: will work with Bryan to structure and place current text we have reviewed on the wiki (bryan_att, 13:36:38)
    31. Bryan describes intent of agenda item "Update from Community (Product) Committee discussion on models uploaded to the Acumos AI portal and mandatory inclusion of license and copyright notices, and that model artifacts as downloaded also having these same notices." (bryan_att, 13:41:14)
    32. Scott: for models contributed to the LF instance, the contribuion is to the Acumos project and covered by it's rules (bryan_att, 13:43:15)
    33. Jack: need to consider licensing of the metadata (bryan_att, 13:46:27)
    34. ... need to ensure that licensing guideines are clear (bryan_att, 13:47:00)
    35. Jamil: can there be non-open-source models shared thru the marketplace? (bryan_att, 13:47:35)
    36. Jack: yes, but that is different from models uploaded to the LF (bryan_att, 13:47:54)
    37. ... we will have to further discuss (bryan_att, 13:49:42)
    38. TSC agreed that we expect all models to have license, attribution, and trusted - not that we can 100% guarantee these things but the clear intent is that the comunity establishes processes to fulfill that intent as much as possible (bryan_att, 13:52:51)
    39. Topic update on committee kickoff and formation (bryan_att, 13:53:22)
    40. Ofer we updated the roles of the originally proposed committees (bryan_att, 13:54:08)
    41. Jack: we need to understand where the community requiriements come from (bryan_att, 13:55:06)
    42. Jamil: "product" is typically related to commercial things (bryan_att, 13:55:33)
    43. Bryan: the "product" here is the result of the community's work (bryan_att, 13:56:03)
    44. Bryan: please review the info on the wiki at https://wiki.acumos.org/display/TSC/Architecture+Committee, https://wiki.acumos.org/display/TSC/Product+Committee, https://wiki.acumos.org/display/TSC/Security+Committee (bryan_att, 13:59:39)
    45. other agenda items will be deferred to next week (bryan_att, 14:00:45)


Meeting ended at 14:03:06 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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