#lfn-meeting: LFN TAC bi-weekly

Meeting started by rpaik at 13:59:11 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Tapio Tallgren (ttallgren, 14:00:09)
    2. edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 14:00:58)
    3. Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 14:01:02)
    4. Rossella Sblendido (rossella_s, 14:01:06)
    5. Frank Brockners (frankbrockners, 14:01:15)
    6. Andre Fredette, Red Hat (afredette, 14:02:36)
    7. Wenjing Chu (rpaik, 14:02:41)
    8. Tim Irnich (timirnich, 14:02:41)
    9. Rajesh Gadiyar Intel (RajeshGadiyar, 14:04:20)
    10. Wenjing Chu (wenjing, 14:04:24)
    11. mazin gilbert (ATT,ONAP) (gilbert, 14:04:30)
    12. Eric Debeau, Orange proxy for Jamil Chawki (EricDebeau, 14:05:14)

  2. TAC governance documents (rpaik, 14:07:04)
    1. https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10544 Feedback to Board about timelines for gov docs (dfarrell07, 14:07:38)
    2. https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10544/ (rpaik, 14:07:39)
    3. edwarnicke notes that this acknowledges the action item and list items that needs to be worked on (rpaik, 14:09:31)
    4. Jason Hunt, IBM (JasonHunt, 14:11:44)
    5. discussion on an 8-week timeframe for finalizing governance documents (this would be June 13th) (rpaik, 14:16:01)
    6. Anders Rosengren (anders, 14:20:08)
    7. https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10248/ (rpaik, 14:25:11)
    8. recommendation to have TAC projects community representation to the GB (rpaik, 14:26:52)
    9. gilbert asks is the concern that the technical communities will have different views or we need to have more weight to the technical communities? (rpaik, 14:32:04)
    10. Anders expresses that TAC and Projects may have different views. (edwarnicke, 14:33:25)
    11. https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10544/9 Edited gov docs recommendation to make July 11th explicit (dfarrell07, 14:37:35)
    12. proxy for Rajesh (rpaik, 14:43:05)
    13. VOTE: Voted on "does the TAC approve https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10544/9 as a recommendation to the GB?" Results are, +1: 14 (rpaik, 14:43:14)
    14. https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10248/7 (edwarnicke, 14:43:42)
    15. proxy for Rajesh (rpaik, 14:45:29)
    16. VOTE: Voted on "does the TAC approve https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10248/7 as a recommendation for TAC representation at the GB?" Results are, +1: 14 (rpaik, 14:45:52)
    17. ACTION: rpaik/phrobb to communicate above recommendations to the GB (rpaik, 14:47:04)
    18. frankbrockners points out that the TSCs don't typically think about things in terms of exact money amounts, more goals/ideas/actions, so proposed process would be fairly different (dfarrell07, 14:50:53)
    19. frankbrockners suggests that it might make more sense to have a request for more generic "things", vs trying to always put things in terms of money (dfarrell07, 14:51:55)

  3. new budget request (rpaik, 14:53:02)
    1. timirnich points out that it's a matter of who translates ideas into money, and question is who should do that translation, likely not the TSCs (dfarrell07, 14:53:10)
    2. budget/resource request should be worked with community/project PM's (rpaik, 14:54:00)
    3. edwarnicke points out that some things, like pay or vendor quotes, shouldn't be publically translated into money figures, sould happen later in private (dfarrell07, 14:54:01)
    4. suggestion the term from "budget" to "resource" (rpaik, 14:54:36)
    5. discussion on whether TAC is an effective forum to address budget requests (rpaik, 14:56:46)
    6. edwarnicke talks about proposal in 10545 that takes TAC out of the decision pipeline a bit to lower overhead, TAC is for cross-community sync, Board A&P is for decision yes/no (dfarrell07, 14:56:57)
    7. https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10545/ (edwarnicke, 14:57:27)
    8. lots of discussion about role of TAC and Board in budget decision process (dfarrell07, 15:00:27)
    9. one problem seems to be that TAC may not have insight into full budget, dfarrell07 would like to see solving that via having more open budget overall (dfarrell07, 15:01:11)
    10. budget discussion to continue over email (rpaik, 15:01:17)


Meeting ended at 15:01:27 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. rpaik/phrobb to communicate above recommendations to the GB


Action items, by person

  1. phrobb
    1. rpaik/phrobb to communicate above recommendations to the GB
  2. rpaik
    1. rpaik/phrobb to communicate above recommendations to the GB


People present (lines said)

  1. rpaik (27)
  2. dfarrell07 (14)
  3. collabot` (12)
  4. edwarnicke (9)
  5. timirnich (4)
  6. ttallgren (4)
  7. frankbrockners (3)
  8. JasonHunt (3)
  9. afredette (3)
  10. rossella_s (3)
  11. gilbert (3)
  12. wenjing (3)
  13. kennypaul (2)
  14. Guest93024 (2)
  15. EricDebeau (2)
  16. Davide (2)
  17. Greg_ (1)
  18. tykeal (1)
  19. RajeshGadiyar (1)
  20. anders (1)
  21. phrobb (0)


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