#lfn-meeting: TSC-2018-10-03

Meeting started by kennypaul at 13:59:19 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. rollcall & agenda (kennypaul, 14:00:20)
    1. edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 14:01:49)
    2. Wenjing Chu (wenjing, 14:02:26)
    3. Greg Elkinbard (GregElkinbard, 14:03:09)
    4. https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=afkpqm0ngjva5r7a0u95gjunu4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FLos_Angeles Link to public TAC calendar. (CaseyLF, 14:03:50)
    5. Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 14:04:07)
    6. Xiaojun Xie (Xiaojun, 14:04:21)
    7. Rossella Sblendido (rossella_s, 14:04:27)
    8. Tapio Tallgren (ttallgren, 14:04:43)
    9. Ray Kinsella covering for Rajesh Gadiyar (mortderire, 14:06:52)
    10. ACTION: kennypaul add Catherine Lefevre and Brian Freeman to slides/invites (kennypaul, 14:07:14)

  2. JIRA Workflows (CaseyLF, 14:07:33)
  3. Jira workflow - Randa Maher (kennypaul, 14:07:42)
    1. Ed asks that the slides be uploaded somewhere. Randa stated that she will have them uploaded and notify the TAC. (CaseyLF, 14:23:15)
    2. ACTION: Randa Mahar to upload slides and share the link with the TAC. (CaseyLF, 14:23:51)
    3. Daniel mentioned that there is a Resolution state flag and asked if it was considered. Randa stated that she is working with the LF to resolve the issue with custom status fields. (CaseyLF, 14:26:47)

  4. 2019 budget (kennypaul, 14:27:50)
    1. edwarnicke raises concern over $25k proposed budget per project for community oriented budjet (kennypaul, 14:32:24)
    2. Ed asks if there is a certain amount of assigned budget. Mazin said that there was a request for a template this year and that the following cycle there would be a pool. Ed suggest that the TAC should develop a suggested amount. (CaseyLF, 14:32:29)
    3. dfarrell07 also has the same concern (kennypaul, 14:32:59)
    4. Wants the community to be involved in the Oct 17 budget discussions and ask that there is representation invited to the meeting. (CaseyLF, 14:33:45)
    5. dfarrell07 thinks the Community Oriented Budget Process as we sent it to the Board was half-baked, under-development, had outstanding feedback that should have been addressed before going to Board (dfarrell07, 14:33:46)
    6. dfarrell07 thinks the TAC should revisit the proposal to the Board to harden it, make it easier for the Board, make it more likely we good a good outcome (dfarrell07, 14:34:18)
    7. https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10545/ (edwarnicke, 14:34:49)
    8. there are a lot of open questions from dfarrell07 on this patchset (link next), basically the same issues we're saying we need to re-address now (dfarrell07, 14:36:53)
    9. https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/10545/26/docs/recommendations/community_oriented_budgeting/community_oriented_budgeting.rst lots of questions we should address (dfarrell07, 14:36:59)
    10. Anders Rosengren (anders_, 14:37:05)
    11. Phil Asks Ed to deliver some more specific questions and language for the TSCs to answer regarding budgeting. (CaseyLF, 14:39:10)
    12. Jason H also expresses concerns that there is not enough time to complete a budget requests from the TSCs. (CaseyLF, 14:40:03)
    13. Jason H expressed concerns that no input had been gathered from the ONAP TSC on budgeting, and he was concerned about not being able to have a face to face next year (as happened last year). (edwarnicke, 14:41:29)
    14. Four points: 1) scope of TSC discretionary fund, 2) Amount of TSC discretionary funds, 3) Multiple community reports of no ask for input to their TSCs, 4) Multiple communities have not had their needs met in the last year due to disconnect between communities and boards (edwarnicke, 14:44:05)
    15. : Plan: 1) Projects to seek to gather back of envelope budgets from their TSCs for next week's TAC. 2) Request that reps from each community be invited to Oct 17 board meeting to represent budget needs. (edwarnicke, 14:46:05)
    16. dfarrell07 thinks this is all much more painful because we're having to hear what the Board thinks second-hand through two people, vs project reps just attending Board meetings (dfarrell07, 14:47:36)
    17. ACTION: edwarnicke to send a list of suggested questions to the TAC regarding Budget Discretionary Funds for the Projects. (CaseyLF, 14:56:38)

  5. TSC Chair Job Description (kennypaul, 14:56:49)
    1. Brian F suggests proceeding with the self nomination using the existing doc, and proceed with a follow-up realistic document (kennypaul, 15:03:48)
    2. I am Randy's proxy today (GregElkinbard, 15:05:44)
    3. Brian makes a motion to accept the document, dfarrell07 2nds (kennypaul, 15:06:30)
    4. AGREED: document is accepted via verbal vote, pending verification of quorum. (kennypaul, 15:07:50)
    5. ACTION: kennypaul to follow up to list with verification. (kennypaul, 15:08:21)


Meeting ended at 15:08:30 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. kennypaul add Catherine Lefevre and Brian Freeman to slides/invites
  2. Randa Mahar to upload slides and share the link with the TAC.
  3. edwarnicke to send a list of suggested questions to the TAC regarding Budget Discretionary Funds for the Projects.
  4. kennypaul to follow up to list with verification.


Action items, by person

  1. edwarnicke
    1. edwarnicke to send a list of suggested questions to the TAC regarding Budget Discretionary Funds for the Projects.
  2. kennypaul
    1. kennypaul add Catherine Lefevre and Brian Freeman to slides/invites
    2. kennypaul to follow up to list with verification.


People present (lines said)

  1. CaseyLF (15)
  2. kennypaul (14)
  3. dfarrell07 (11)
  4. edwarnicke (6)
  5. collabot (6)
  6. ttallgren (3)
  7. GregElkinbard (2)
  8. mortderire (2)
  9. anders_ (1)
  10. rossella_s (1)
  11. Xiaojun (1)
  12. wenjing (1)
  13. phrobb (0)


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