#opendaylight-meeting Meeting

Meeting started by phrobb at 17:00:08 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. dmm (dmm, 17:00:15)
    2. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Meeting_Agenda (dmm, 17:00:24)

  2. TSC members please #info in (phrobb, 17:00:57)
    1. Ed Warnicke (edwarnicke___, 17:03:01)
    2. Chris Wright (cdub, 17:03:31)
    3. vijoy (vijoy, 17:04:28)
    4. Kent Watsen (kwatsen, 17:04:59)
    5. Rob Dolin proxy for Rajeev Nagar (Microsoft) (RobDolin, 17:05:10)

  3. Agenda Bashing (phrobb, 17:05:51)
    1. Chris Price joined (ChrsPriceAB, 17:06:08)
    2. If anyone has any comments for last week's minutes, please make them in meeting, or on the TSC mailing list (phrobb, 17:07:21)

  4. Creation Review - Documentation (phrobb, 17:07:50)
    1. ACTION: take discussion and proposed revision of charter re election to list (deadline 6/2/2014) (regXboi, 17:07:52)
    2. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Documentation (edwarnicke___, 17:08:06)
    3. dmm asks about documentation automation (RobDolin_, 17:11:51)
    4. : q - how much automation/tooling available? (phrobb, 17:11:54)
    5. regXboi asks how docs thrown off as side effect of project build fits in to this doc plan (phrobb, 17:13:05)
    6. regXboi asks about build generated docs like maven site generation (edwarnicke___, 17:13:09)
    7. regXboi volunteers to be a committed resource for the documentation project if it includes auto-generated documentation (RobDolin_, 17:17:10)
    8. dmm asks: will there be outgoing documentation as well as technical documentation ? (RobDolin_, 17:18:33)
    9. Mathieu and Paul suggest this may be down the road (RobDolin_, 17:18:53)
    10. regXboi has added himself as resource and committer (regXboi, 17:20:46)
    11. AGREED: The Documentation Project into Incubation (phrobb, 17:21:31)

  5. Creation Review Dynamic Resource Reservation (phrobb, 17:22:22)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Dynamic_Resource_Reservation (edwarnicke___, 17:25:49)
    2. point made that GBP may already provide the northbound plugin for this project (regXboi, 17:36:42)
    3. question about what protocols would be used for SB (regXboi, 17:38:26)
    4. answer there are multiple protocols that can be used (regXboi, 17:39:26)
    5. statement that those points should be added to the proposal (regXboi, 17:39:39)
    6. question about reuse of existing components (specific topology manager) (regXboi, 17:39:57)
    7. answer is that it is still be considered (regXboi, 17:40:18)
    8. slight digression about how to allow this project to interwork with topology manager (regXboi, 17:41:42)
    9. Question before the TSC is whether to move the Dynamic Resource Project to Incubation (RobDolin_, 17:43:29)
    10. AGREED: dynamic resource project to incubation (regXboi, 17:43:46)

  6. Helium Release Schedule (phrobb, 17:44:08)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Helium_Release_Plan (edwarnicke___, 17:44:13)
    2. changes being highlighted: no later than M2 as part of the Gerrit/Jenkins merge process participating projects must push their binary artifacts to the Nexus repo. (regXboi, 17:46:44)
    3. No uses of System.out.println in non testcase code. (regXboi, 17:47:04)
    4. No dependencies on 3rd party (non-ODL) snapshot versions (regXboi, 17:47:16)
    5. aspirations and intentions added as "stretch goals" (regXboi, 17:49:12)
    6. regXboi (Ryan Moats, IBM) expresses a concern with continuous documentation not being part of Helium (RobDolin_, 17:50:48)
    7. edwarnicke__ suggests that requiring continuous documentation for Helium will be a high bar (RobDolin_, 17:53:06)
    8. dmm (David Meyer, Brocade) expresses agreement with Ed (RobDolin_, 17:53:28)
    9. regXboi suggests if we're starting continuous integration in M3, we should also have continuous documentation (RobDolin_, 17:54:20)
    10. regXboi asks: If this is an approved draft schedule, does this go into stone in such a way that we can't add continuous documentation in M3? (RobDolin_, 17:55:44)
    11. regXboi's happy question - is this release plan in stone, or can we mandate Continuous-docs later? - Answer from edwarnicke___ "no we can change the criteria mid-stream (phrobb, 17:56:06)
    12. EdWarnicke__ suggests we could move commencing user-facing documentation from M5 to M3 (RobDolin_, 17:57:15)
    13. cdub suggests that you can start documentation even if you haven't locked-down APIs (RobDolin_, 18:02:39)
    14. the Documentation Project may be able to provide recommendations to projects for docs to be produced (phrobb, 18:04:38)
    15. AGREED: moving doc start from M5->M3 (regXboi, 18:05:19)
    16. ACTION: Documentation group to provide guidance to projects on documentation produced (phrobb, 18:05:28)
    17. dmm suggests changing all TSC "musts" to "Commits to" (phrobb, 18:09:09)
    18. concern that having Lithium Plan finalized in M2 would lead to Lithium not having to implement continuous documentation (regXboi, 18:11:15)
    19. edwarnicke__ points out this is more general that just documentation, it may preclude including learnings from Helium (regXboi, 18:12:46)
    20. cdub suggests we could push-out the Litinum release plan to M4 or M5; and release planning cycles should be easier as we gain more xperience. (RobDolin_, 18:12:59)
    21. edwarnicke__ is worried about having the "bones" of lithium earlier in the process (regXboi, 18:14:14)
    22. so that new projects have an understanding of the sechedule sooner rather than later (regXboi, 18:14:40)
    23. discussion of how to schedule Lithium in a way that provides forward visibility to new projects (regXboi, 18:18:40)
    24. lenrow proposes putting out provisional schedules for Lithium (and maybe Berrylium) (regXboi, 18:23:09)
    25. which corresponds to cdub's proposal (regXboi, 18:23:21)
    26. colindixon points out that we have to get to an annual template (regXboi, 18:23:44)
    27. correction: proposal from kwatsen, not lenrow (regXboi, 18:24:17)
    28. edwarnicke__ pushes back that he wants time for review and consideration (regXboi, 18:24:34)
    29. and community discussion (edwarnicke___, 18:24:44)
    30. regXboi asks if there is a proposal to put the helium and lithium and subsequent release schedules on the public page (regXboi, 18:31:25)
    31. http://www.opendaylight.org/resources/getting-started-guide is currently linked from www.opendaylight.org (RobDolin_, 18:31:47)
    32. ACTION: we need to put links on the opendaylight page to the schedule, mailing lists and irc channel lists (regXboi, 18:31:59)
    33. discussion of provisional dates for service releases (regXboi, 18:46:38)
    34. cdub argues that he doesn't want to set the dates for stable releases, because things happen (colindixon, 18:48:28)
    35. edwarnicke___ wants to let developers plan vacations after releases w/o worrying about having to ship stable updates (colindixon, 18:48:52)
    36. AGREED: resolution is to set the dates as provisional and that they can be modified as needed, e.g., for critical bug fixes (colindixon, 18:49:58)
    37. colindixon is concerned how as a community we enforce these deadlines as we didn't do it well in Hydrogen (phrobb, 18:51:43)
    38. note that the TSC can let projects join after M1 (within reason) for extenuating circumstances, e.g., IPR review (colindixon, 18:53:48)
    39. edwarnicke___ notes that a project split into 2 projects may need until M3 to have their release plans created/updated.. ie Project A splits into B & C, B & C need to accomodate everything identified in the original project A (phrobb, 18:54:47)
    40. cdub calls for a vote on the schedule (RobDolin_, 19:00:12)
    41. Vote to adopt the Full Release plan for Helium presented today (phrobb, 19:01:02)
    42. AGREED: the Full Release Plan for Helium presented is approved (phrobb, 19:01:24)


Meeting ended at 19:02:03 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. take discussion and proposed revision of charter re election to list (deadline 6/2/2014)
  2. Documentation group to provide guidance to projects on documentation produced
  3. we need to put links on the opendaylight page to the schedule, mailing lists and irc channel lists


People present (lines said)

  1. regXboi (60)
  2. networkstatic (43)
  3. RobDolin_ (29)
  4. phrobb (26)
  5. alagalah (26)
  6. edwarnicke___ (16)
  7. cdub (16)
  8. colindixon (14)
  9. dmm (8)
  10. odl_meetbot (4)
  11. vijoy (3)
  12. lenrow (2)
  13. ChrsPriceAB (2)
  14. RobDolin (2)
  15. mlemay (2)
  16. mrberner-mobile (1)
  17. kwatsen (1)
  18. phudgins (1)


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