#opendaylight-meeting: TSC 7-17

Meeting started by regXboi at 17:00:28 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. dmm (dmm, 17:00:33)
    2. regXboi (regXboi, 17:00:43)
    3. Chris Wright (cdub_, 17:00:49)
    4. Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:01:25)
    5. Jan Medved (jmedved, 17:02:14)
    6. Kent Watsen (kwatsen, 17:02:29)
    7. Rob Dolin proxy for Rajeev Nagar (MSFT) (RobDolin, 17:02:33)
    8. note: jmedved has ed's proxy this week (regXboi, 17:02:40)
    9. uchau - proxy for HP (uchau, 17:03:33)
    10. no audio recording this week (regXboi, 17:04:46)

  2. agenda bashing (colindixon, 17:04:51)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main the agenda can be found here (as usual) (colindixon, 17:05:26)
    2. phrobb arrives (there will actually be a recording) (colindixon, 17:05:51)
    3. just missing first 5+ minutes :( (regXboi, 17:06:03)

  3. system testing and integration (colindixon, 17:06:38)
    1. LuisGomez says that he Mathieu (karaf pacakging) and Paul Zimmerman (documentation) are working together to communicate to projects what they’re going to need from projects to get testing and documentation working (colindixon, 17:07:48)
    2. skipping Doc topic for today (regXboi, 17:09:01)
    3. expect an e-mail from phrobb about this meeting to the release mailing lists; all primary contacts for projects participating in the helium release should be on that list today (colindixon, 17:09:06)

  4. Committer Promitions (regXboi, 17:09:14)
    1. Michal Rehak to committer to OpenFlowJavaLibrary (regXboi, 17:09:33)
    2. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-July/001359.html (hideyuki, 17:11:40)
    3. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-July/001359.html the mail showing the internal vote (thanks to hideyuki) (colindixon, 17:12:21)
    4. VOTE: Voted on "shall Michal Rehak be promoted to committer on the OpenFlowJava Project?" Results are, +1: 8 (regXboi, 17:13:36)
    5. AGREED: Michal Rehak has been promoted to committer (phrobb, 17:13:51)
    6. congrats (just as further supporing information, Micahal has 150 of 254 commits on that project) (colindixon, 17:13:55)

  5. hydrogen statble release (colindixon, 17:14:33)
    1. Ryan, need to re-spin stable hydrogen. (ChrisPriceAB, 17:15:32)
    2. regXboi says we need to respin the release and he’s having some trouble getting it done (with the auto-release jobs) and also to make sure that we have confirmation from all projects (colindixon, 17:15:46)
    3. Dave m proposed (ChrisPriceAB, 17:16:32)
    4. cdub_ and dmm suggest that we don’t wait a whole week, maybe provide provisional support based on the current project +1s (colindixon, 17:16:32)
    5. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13MBWx3kcevlGGla0zIYS312xvjnJHH2i5X2fGOYMesw/edit#gid=0 is the google's doc (regXboi, 17:17:00)
    6. dmm asks if we’re having trouble because the baton has been passed around or if it’s technical issues? (colindixon, 17:18:29)
    7. Q: is the problem in getting the stable release done due to passing around the lead-responsibility, or are there real issues with the release? A: some problems in shifting leadership, some possibly on infrastructure (auto release scripts), and some on a good process to get feedback from projects promptly. (phrobb, 17:19:34)
    8. colindixon says one key problem which we don’t have a good way to get a response to a question from *all* projects in an efficient manner (colindixon, 17:21:10)
    9. phrobb says that basically, the common pattern for that is that we get a response from ~60% in a timeline fashion and the remaining 40% takes 7-10 days to get responses from everyone by manually pinging people repeatedly (colindixon, 17:22:02)
    10. cdub suggests...if you don't comply we keep note and record on the "regular release" part of ability to be promoted _and_ i propose that we focus future releases on not releasing incubated code (cdub_, 17:22:43)
    11. plan for stable/H is to see if the current spin works - once we have a spin, to publicize it to folks and to cat herd projects to +1 the google docs (regXboi, 17:24:48)
    12. plan(2) is to then use TSC mailing list for approval once all projects +1 the google doc (regXboi, 17:25:08)
    13. or a majority (regXboi, 17:25:14)

  6. karaf update (regXboi, 17:25:28)
    1. ACTION: cdub_ to propose his suggestion (about using failure to respond as a gate to moving out of incubation) to the TSC list and maybe have a vote on it in the future (colindixon, 17:25:51)
    2. LuisGomez says he is very, very much in favor of using features to help testing (colindixon, 17:26:33)
    3. dmm asks if we should set a drop dead date so that we can put some fire underneath people to make a decision (colindixon, 17:27:20)
    4. phrobb says mail today will send out and invite for two meetings (to accomodate all time zones) around this stuff which will be on 7/23 (colindixon, 17:28:59)
    5. we will provide a readout of that to the TSC on 7/24 (colindixon, 17:29:20)
    6. we will also give projects a week to react to that by the 7/30 M4 meeting which should give us a project-level readout on how we’re doing with karaf things (colindixon, 17:30:03)
    7. then the TSC could provide an informed go/no-go decsion on the 7/31 meeting (colindixon, 17:30:36)
    8. ACTION: phrobb will send a mail with this timeline to TSC and release (colindixon, 17:32:15)

  7. events in dusseldorf (colindixon, 17:34:58)
    1. http://www.layer123.com/sdn (cdub_, 17:35:38)
    2. http://www.opendaylight.org/events/2014-10-13/opendaylight-d%C3%BCsseldorf-hackfest (abhijitkumbhare, 17:35:48)
    3. http://www.opendaylight.org/events/2014-10-13/opendaylight-d%C3%BCsseldorf-hackfest (abhijitkumbhare, 17:35:56)
    4. minisummit: http://www.opendaylight.org/events/2014-10-14/opendaylight-mini-summit-sdn-openflow-world-congress (ChrisPriceAB, 17:36:06)
    5. if you want to help out get in touch with him or Todd or Katy (sp?) (colindixon, 17:36:42)
    6. ChrisPriceAB would like to use this to gett OpenDaylight better booted up in Europe (colindixon, 17:36:56)
    7. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-July/001387.html CFP is open email (cdub_, 17:36:58)

  8. new bylaws (colindixon, 17:37:10)
    1. As the bylaws have now been approved we will soon be ready to hold at large elections across the OpenDaylight community. (ChrisPriceAB, 17:38:28)
    2. Phil Robb will call for these over the regular mailing lists. (ChrisPriceAB, 17:38:46)
    3. the TSC had no objections to final by-laws sent by phrobb. The Board is now voting on approval of the amended by-laws and TSC charter and to implement the Waiver for one year. The Board vote will end next Wednesday 7/23 and at that point, if approved the waiver will begin to be in affect (phrobb, 17:39:05)
    4. Learship in time and content! (ChrisPriceAB, 17:39:16)


Meeting ended at 17:39:35 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. cdub_ to propose his suggestion (about using failure to respond as a gate to moving out of incubation) to the TSC list and maybe have a vote on it in the future
  2. phrobb will send a mail with this timeline to TSC and release


Action items, by person

  1. cdub_
    1. cdub_ to propose his suggestion (about using failure to respond as a gate to moving out of incubation) to the TSC list and maybe have a vote on it in the future
  2. phrobb
    1. phrobb will send a mail with this timeline to TSC and release


People present (lines said)

  1. colindixon (39)
  2. regXboi (25)
  3. ChrisPriceAB (19)
  4. cdub_ (18)
  5. odl_meetbot (10)
  6. phrobb (6)
  7. dmm (5)
  8. jmedved (3)
  9. tbachman (3)
  10. RobDolin (3)
  11. kwatsen (2)
  12. abhijitkumbhare (2)
  13. uchau (2)
  14. hideyuki (2)


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