#opendaylight-meeting: tsc

Meeting started by skitt at 18:04:40 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. TSC members please info in (skitt, 18:04:53)
    2. skitt (skitt, 18:04:58)
    3. Anil Vishnoi (vishnoianil, 18:05:01)

  2. Rollcall (skitt, 18:05:10)
    1. jamoluhrsen (jamoluhrsen, 18:05:10)
    2. tykeal - Andrew Grimberg (Proxy for zxiiro / Thanh Ha) (tykeal, 18:05:13)
    3. anipbu (anipbu, 18:05:16)
    4. jamoluhrsen (jamoluhrsen, 18:05:16)
    5. abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 18:05:17)
    6. jamoluhrsen for shague (jamoluhrsen, 18:05:21)
    7. LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 18:05:27)
    8. lori (lori, 18:05:38)
    9. Last week's minutes: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-11-09-18.01.html (skitt, 18:05:45)

  3. Events (skitt, 18:10:55)
  4. Oxygen (skitt, 18:12:43)
    1. klou sent the final M1 reminder last week (skitt, 18:13:06)
    2. ocpplugin and tsdr didn’t respond and will be dropped (skitt, 18:13:18)
    3. yangtools asked to be tracked separately (skitt, 18:13:42)
    4. non-autorelease projects should feel free to respond N/A to non-applicable questions in the readouts (skitt, 18:15:39)
    5. ACTION: rovarga_ to fill in the yangtools milestone readouts until an alternative is in place (skitt, 18:16:55)
    6. we want to ensure the project in general is aware of odlparent and yangtools’ status (skitt, 18:17:26)

  5. Nitrogen (skitt, 18:17:38)
    1. still waiting for SR1 sign-off on CSIT issues (skitt, 18:17:54)
    2. jamoluhrsen and LuisGomez will be looking at the remaining problems (skitt, 18:18:05)
    3. as soon as we get sign-off we can formally release SR1 (skitt, 18:18:15)
    4. (hopefully before Thanksgiving) (skitt, 18:18:24)
    5. SR2 date is December 7, we won’t hit that date (skitt, 18:18:43)
    6. SR1 likely early next week, starting November 21 (skitt, 18:18:58)
    7. one fall-out from the TWS session on lessons from Nitrogen was reducing the number of SRs (skitt, 18:19:30)
    8. so we could perhaps drop the December 7 release (skitt, 18:20:24)
    9. releases take ~6 weeks (skitt, 18:21:11)
    10. too much overlap now with six month releases, zxiiro and abelur are always in release mode (skitt, 18:24:57)
    11. we never hit our release targets (skitt, 18:26:06)
    12. specific proposal is to reduce SRs from 4 to 3 (skitt, 18:27:39)
    13. or even doing as-needed SRs, but that would be too hard (no consensus) (skitt, 18:27:53)
    14. our downstreams don’t track our releases very closely (skitt, 18:32:18)
    15. we do still need SR1 not too long after GA because that release has lots of fixes (skitt, 18:32:33)
    16. which indicates that our initial releases are hurried and not properly engineered (skitt, 18:33:25)
    17. we need to avoid having too many SRs from different streams close together (skitt, 18:38:56)
    18. we need to conclude the distribution discussions before we plan Fluorine, which makes them quite urgent (January) (skitt, 18:39:40)
    19. the key problem with Oxygen is that we have Oxygen GA, Carbon SR and Oxygen SR in quick succession (skitt, 18:40:09)
    20. resulting in over two full months spent in full release mode (ramp-down Oxygen, then Carbon, then Oxygen again) (skitt, 18:40:42)
    21. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Release_Dashboard <- view of all active releases (klou, 18:42:03)
    22. one solution would be to release Oxygen GA, Oxygen SR1 and only then Carbon SR (skitt, 18:42:19)
    23. which would extend our Carbon support time by two months (skitt, 18:42:29)
    24. and also give time to back-port issues fixed in Oxygen SR1 to Carbon before its last SR (skitt, 18:43:51)
    25. we need to ask projects whether they need a Carbon release (skitt, 18:47:21)
    26. likewise for our downstreams (skitt, 18:47:26)
    27. some of this goes back to our decision to support Carbon longer (skitt, 18:47:34)
    28. we’ve tried asking before, without getting any feedback (skitt, 18:50:04)
    29. we’ll revisit this issue later (skitt, 18:50:36)

  6. Carbon (skitt, 18:51:41)
    1. SR3 planned for December 14 (skitt, 18:51:53)

  7. Infrastructure (skitt, 18:52:38)
    1. Gerrit migration coming up next week on Friday (black Friday) (skitt, 18:52:58)
    2. this will switch ids to LF ids (skitt, 18:53:11)
    3. known mappings will be applied (skitt, 18:53:32)
    4. unknown accounts will be disabled in Gerrit (skitt, 18:53:41)
    5. so if you don’t have a wiki account or JIRA account yet, pay close attention to tykeal’s email which went out yesterday (skitt, 18:54:05)
    6. upgrading to the latest version of Gerrit too (skitt, 18:54:23)
    7. (the issues with Jenkins have been fixed) (skitt, 18:54:34)
    8. also upgrading to the latest version of JIRA (skitt, 18:54:43)
    9. should fix a couple of issues and provide a couple of features people have been asking for (skitt, 18:55:01)
    10. expecting some fallout from Gerrit accounts being locked (skitt, 18:55:11)
    11. final migration out of Rackspace planned for early December (skitt, 18:55:20)
    12. as mentioned previously, we’ll be uncapped, however overage will cost us (but less than with Rackspace) (skitt, 18:55:53)
    13. things should be much better after the migration: better relations with the provider, no more hybrid setup... (skitt, 18:58:52)

  8. LF news (skitt, 18:59:21)
    1. the LF has asked that we display the antitrust policy notice at the start of every TSC call (skitt, 18:59:39)
    2. many people didn’t get the voting emails from Condorcet for the CAL election, ping CaseyODL if you haven’t got it (skitt, 19:00:26)
    3. (he resent them today) (skitt, 19:00:35)
    4. the LF is considering moving all their mailing lists etc. to groups.io (skitt, 19:01:13)
    5. CaseyODL can talk about this at some future TWS (skitt, 19:03:45)

  9. Cookies (skitt, 19:04:06)


Meeting ended at 19:04:12 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. rovarga_ to fill in the yangtools milestone readouts until an alternative is in place


People present (lines said)

  1. skitt (71)
  2. dfarrell07 (10)
  3. jamoluhrsen (10)
  4. abhijitkumbhare (9)
  5. tykeal (7)
  6. odl_meetbot (5)
  7. CaseyODL (4)
  8. lori (3)
  9. gzhao (2)
  10. anipbu (2)
  11. klou (1)
  12. LuisGomez (1)
  13. vishnoianil (1)


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